Hayley Hobson: Hello, my friends, I'm Hayley Hobson, and I am so glad you're here. Welcome to the 10/10 podcast, where I help ambitious women just like you look and feel younger so you can achieve a 10 out of 10 lifestyle and unlock financial freedom.
Hayley Hobson: So today I'm digging into something that keeps coming up, at least in my feed and conversations all the time now. It's the conversation around peptides.
Hayley Hobson: And if you've been in the health and wellness space for a while, you know this already. There's always the next thing. I mean, we're evolving, right? So some of it is legit noise, and some of it is genuinely interesting. And some of it is actually next level. And we wonder how in the world we survive without it.
Hayley Hobson: Peptides fall into the second and third categories. And they really are the future of health and wellness.
Hayley Hobson: So let me give you the 411. At their core, peptides are short chains of amino acids. They're basically the building blocks that your body already uses to communicate, to repair, and to regulate itself.
Hayley Hobson: You can think of them as tiny messengers. And instead of forcing your body to do something, many peptides work by signaling your body to do what it already knows how to do, which I love about them. They're so smart.
Hayley Hobson: They just signal it to do it more efficiently and effectively. And that's why they're being studied a lot in areas now like longevity and cellular repair, skin health, hair health, tissue regeneration, muscle recovery, metabolic health, inflammation, immune support, cognitive function, resilience as we age up, you name it. And what I buy into is the idea of, well, you guys know this, aging more efficiently and effectively.
Hayley Hobson: I'm not talking about reversing the aging process. I'm talking about supporting your body's systems that allow you to stay strong and sharp and mobile and energized as you age up. So let me be clear, peptides are not a shortcut.
Hayley Hobson: They are not a replacement for sleep or movement or nutrition or nervous system regulation. Anyone pitching them to you like that is kind of missing the point. But as part of the bigger picture, they're absolutely fascinating.
Hayley Hobson: And that's why I'm staying on the forefront. That's why I'm learning, I'm researching, I'm asking hard questions. And yeah, experimenting thoughtfully and responsibly.
Hayley Hobson: And that's also why I brought a new friend, Eric Smith, who is somewhat of a neighbor to me when I'm in my Cardiff house in California onto the podcast. He's just up the road. And he is the founder of a company called Perfect Peptides.
Hayley Hobson: And he's helping me understand what actually moves the needle, what might be overhyped, and where peptides can generally fit into all of our long term wellness strategies. So let me introduce him. After playing college golf at Cal State University in San Marcos, Eric transitioned into the medical supply industry, where a passion for health and fitness quickly took hold.
Hayley Hobson: And that passion led him to endurance sports, competing over a decade and more than 100 triathlons and marathons, including three Ironman races. In fact, I sent my husband over to him last week. So they could have to ask Eric about that in a sec, so that they could meet and see what they had in common.
Hayley Hobson: So Eric saw a gap in performance gear, I should say, through his triathlon experience, and he founded a compression sock company in 2008, which he then successfully sold to a private equity firm in 2022. And since then, he's invested in several businesses, but his true passion remains building and growing startups from the ground up. So nine months ago, Eric founded Perfect Peptides, and is excited to be working in the peptide and wellness space.
Hayley Hobson: Outside of his business, he's been married for nearly 18 years, and is a proud dad of two teenagers. And as a family, they train daily, they love golf, they recently discovered rucking as a challenging joint way to stay fit. I'll have to ask you about that in a sec. So welcome, Eric, to the podcast.
Eric Smith: Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.
Hayley Hobson: Oh, it's great. Thank you. Well, first of all, what'd you think, Wes? I sent him over there because I knew that he wanted Retatrutide. He's been talking about it forever. We'll get into what Retatrutide is in a second. But I also was like, after I read your bio last week, I'm like, Oh my God, I got to send him over. He was so in that world, as you probably know.
Eric Smith: Yeah, it's funny. So training for 10 years of being in San Diego, you're around all these different professional athletes. So the people I know, and the people that he was racing against, you know, we had so many common friends. So it was great to chat with him. And, you know, he raced at definitely a faster pace than I did. So it was fun to hear some of his stories and relive some of our training days.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah, totally. Several. Yeah, it's so fun. All right, well, let's get into the peptide conversation. So you got really curious about peptides. You were first an observer, and then you became a founder of your company. So what helped me understand that transition?
Eric Smith: Yeah, so in 2023, I tore my right elbow, my tendon in my elbow, and had surgery. And during the surgery or after the surgery, the surgeon suggested that I looked at peptides for healing and getting back on track. And at that time, I had no idea what a peptide was. So kind of went down the rabbit hole. He suggested two, which were BPC-157 and TB-500. So hey, I can't prescribe this to you. But you know, there's a bunch of research companies out there that are doing these compounds, and you should take a look. So tried it, found, did some research and found the company, was buying it from them. And within three weeks, I cannot tell you the difference it made.
Eric Smith: So then I was stuck. I was like, Okay, if it can help me with a problem that I had for almost two and a half years, and then had to have surgery to get fixed and get better. And it just kind of spurred that whole healing process up, along with I had a back issue at the same time. And within three weeks, literally, it was all gone. I'm like, Okay, what is this, I need to find out more and started going down the rabbit hole and was digging and digging and digging. And it was kind of the same time where I'd sold my business and still working for the private equity firm. And you know, looking for the next thing to do. And nine months ago, I'm like, Okay, me and another, I have two partners. And it's like, we got to figure this out. And so we went down and found U.S. sourcing and started from the ground up. And here we are, nine months later, and we're going strong.
Hayley Hobson: I love that. That's so fun. And that is what we can get into some of the peptides later. But some of the ones I'm taking for very similar reasons. And I know Wes, just I didn't, maybe he explained to you, besides the fact that he wanted to work on his metabolism, he also had an injury to his hand. Okay, so random and weird the way it happened. But yes, we'll get into that when we talk about the specific peptides.
Hayley Hobson: But I do have some other questions for you. What changes other than the healing of your injury did you notice in your day to day life that convinced you that this was like, really the real deal?
Eric Smith: Yeah, so I think that the biggest change with those two that we're doing, which, you know, is always referred to as the Wolverine stack. And at the time, I was doing them separate. I was doing BPC-157 separate and TB-500. And I've since transitioned into doing them as the Wolverine stack itself. But my issue was in the mornings, it would take me an hour to two hours to get stretched out to get warmed up. I would wake up first thing in the morning, go straight to my Peloton, stretch out, ride super slow, come to my yoga mat, do all my PT work for my back and my elbow. And within three weeks, I was like, I don't know if I have to do this every day. Like, I was starting to feel better. And then week four, I started feeling even better. And by week five, I had pretty much stopped doing all that maintenance work in the morning. And just being able to do it at the gym when I was going to do my regular workouts, or before I play golf, I'd be able to stretch lightly and still be able to go with no pain. And as you know, as we get older, fighting the pain is the biggest issue that keeps us from doing everything that we want to be doing, or doing at the level that we think we should be doing it. And so that was the biggest game changer for me.
Hayley Hobson: Wow, that's a huge, huge shift. It's been a big deal. And like to have all that time come back in your day too.
Eric Smith: Yeah. And you know, you tell people, because everyone's always heard these stories of like, Oh, this totally fixed me. And, you know, I have, I can't even tell you the amount of people I've helped get onto these products and the difference that they are feeling. So I'm like, okay, great. Gives me some reassurance that it wasn't just me. It's everyone else trying it as well as seeing a difference. And so I think that is really what kind of spurred us to go down this road as well.
Hayley Hobson: So obviously with things like Retatrutide and some of the other GLP-1 activators, people have seen, you know, you can look at somebody and go, Oh my gosh, you lost 20 pounds. Oh my gosh, you lost 40 pounds. With all the other ones that are working more specifically on like tissue repair, muscle recovery, inflammation, maybe even skin and things like that. We don't see them necessarily happening because they're happening inside of our body. So do you have any stories of like experiences from other people, maybe your wife or other people that you.
Eric Smith: Yeah, so for me personally is what I, so I started with the BPC-157, the TB-500, and then going down the rabbit hole, I've always, my theory is the bigger I can get at a certain number, I'm going to hit the golf ball farther, which is what I'm always trying to do. As we get older, our swing speed slows down and you just don't hit it as far. So I've always been trying to gain a little weight and kind of maintain it. And so what I started looking into was Tesamorelin. So I would do Tesamorelin, CJC, and Ipamorelin. And within six to seven weeks, I started to see my whole body composition change. Like I've always been, like I did triathlon for 10 years. So you're always pretty fit, more of a skinny runner-ish type body build. And then as I started doing those two, I was able to continue to gain a little weight and started seeing massive changes in my body, which was, you know, if you're putting in the work, that's kind of what you want to do. Now, we're very good with our diet and we're moving every day. So none of that ever changed. It was literally the only thing that changed was the adding the peptides to the routine in the mornings and evenings, depending on what you're doing.
Hayley Hobson: What about your wife? What has she seen?
Eric Smith: Yeah, so she is also all been pretty fit. She did a tiny bit of Retatrutide and she would microdose a little Retatrutide, but she likes the Tesamorelin, CJC and Ipamorelin stack as well. We've both done it two different times because you'll do it for anywhere from eight to 12 weeks, depending on what your goals are. And then you need to take a break from it.
Hayley Hobson: All of them or just that stack?
Eric Smith: That stack in particular. Any of the growth hormone stacks, it's better to do that. Your receptors, your body just kind of gets used to it and your brain receptors, you know, you just could use the break. So we've done it, I think we both have done it twice, but then I'm very good about, I'm very consistent with peptides. So I think that's also a key where I've talked to some people, I'm like, Hey, how's it going? Oh, I did it for three days. Didn't really notice a change. I'm like, well, you kind of have to be consistent. For like six weeks or eight weeks. Let's stick to the protocol and do what the research is asking you to do. And you're going to probably see the results. So I think that's a big part of it too, is just being very consistent, just like exercise and diet. You know, it's the same, it's the same thing. You're just going to get that boosted benefit with the peptides.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, when you go out and you have like a really long weekend or you're traveling or you're jet lagged and you, you need a couple of nights to catch up. Like I just got back actually from San Diego, I'm in Boulder right now, but we, we went out, like we went out Thursday night, went out Friday night, went out Saturday night. And by the time I got on the plane on Monday, I was like wiped. I mean, I do really well when I'm like, it's seven to eight hours of sleep. I am a rock star. If I get under seven, I'm fine. But if I get under six, I'm a mess. I had like three nights where it was like just under six or just over six. So I slept really well on Sunday night, the night before I went home, I slept eight and a half hours and then I slept. But I was still tired. I was in a deficit still. Then I went to bed Monday night. I slept another, like almost eight hours, still a little bit tired. Woke up this morning. I'm like, ah, finally three nights in a row. Now I'm good to go. No more deficit, but that's how it is with anything. Like, it's so funny to me when people are like, oh yeah, I just tried that and I did it for a week and it didn't.
Eric Smith: Yes. Yeah, the consistency is the key.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah.
Eric Smith: Yeah, I've always believed that even when I was playing college golf, practicing consistently, triathlon, especially, I mean, you can't miss workouts. You're not going to get any faster or any better if you're missing workouts.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah. Like the consistency is definitely the key. Well, let's jump into some of you named them out, like, you know, with their abbreviated names, as if everybody knows what you're talking about. Let's talk about some of the ones that people ask you about the most. And I'll remind you the ones that I'm taking also. I'm also taking BPC-157. I'm taking NAD. I'm taking the GHK-CU, the copper peptide. And I'm also taking, I was taking some Sermorelin and I've recently switched to Tesamorelin. So maybe we can start with those. I know there's other ones that are super popular. You talked about the Wolverine stack and a couple of, like, Wes is going to do Retatrutide and there's a couple of others that you are taking, but I'm sure that there's like a standard bunch of like super popular ones. When I went in to do it, I didn't start with all of them at once.
Hayley Hobson: By the way, I started with the BPC-157 and the Sermorelin. And my goals at the time were, I also like you had an injury and I had frozen shoulder, which I'd had for like a year and a half. And I could not get rid of it. It was incredible to me that no matter how much PT I was doing, how much strength training, how much body work, rolfing, massaging, whatever it was like, this shoulder, my arm was not raising. My hand was not raising above my shoulder. I went on the BPC-157. I went on a estrogen also patch and boom, like literally within a few weeks, I'm like, no injury, nothing ever happened to me. So yeah, it's crazy, but it's like, it's replicating the healing that our body's supposed to be doing on its own. And it's just sort of like forgotten how to do. And then when I got used to taking the needles on my own, cause I was a little skeevy, like Wes, you have to do it for me. And then I realized there's no way I'm going to be able to stay on this protocol if I don't learn how to do this myself. So once I got comfortable, that's when I came to you and I was like, I want stuff for skin and anti-aging and hair growth. I'm like, let's do all the beauty complexes as well.
Eric Smith: Yeah, that's definitely, I think that's always the biggest hurdle is when people find out they're injectable. So, so we're a research only website. So what that means is basically we're, you don't need a doctor's prescription. You can come purchase it from us, but it's a research base. So everyone needs to be able to do their own research and look into this process. We're not allowed to give recommendations, but that being said, like the BPC, like your use is definitely BPC-157 is the number one, most popular peptide out there right now. Besides the GLPs. And then you're getting into the GHK-CU, which is super popular and TB-500, and it all comes back to healing skin health. And they also make those in a blend. So you can do them all in one vial, which I don't think, I think you're doing them separate, right?
Hayley Hobson: I'm doing them separate. Yeah.
Eric Smith: And so one of the big issues, and you'll see this on some of the talking heads on Instagram or TikTok or whatever is all you can't blend them because it's the pH is wrong or whatever. But if you're going through a true pharmaceutical compound manufacturer, like we use, they can control the pH. And so they'll neutralize it for those three compounds. So when they are together, they work really well together. And so I think that is probably our number three SKU right now, which would be called the Glow Blend, which is BPC-157, TB-500 and GHK-CU.
Hayley Hobson: Oh, okay. All right. So is that less expensive to just blend them all?
Eric Smith: It's definitely more affordable to do it that way. You don't have to buy all three at once. And you don't have to do three or four needles. You can do it all under one.
Hayley Hobson: You end up taking like a higher dose of it so that you get a little bit more of everything in there?
Eric Smith: The dosage is a touch higher, but not much, not the recommended dosage.
Hayley Hobson: Okay. Yeah. Maybe I should try that next.
Eric Smith: Yeah. It's definitely, I mean, it's easier, especially if you travel a lot, like we take it with when we travel. So.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah, although the question I would have then is like the one of them that I'm using is the GHK-CU. It's like, I'm taking that five days a week, but I'm, but the, oh, I guess the BPC-157, I'm also taking.
Eric Smith: Yeah, and the way they do it, the milligrams in the bottle even out to an even dosage. It's a three to five days a week protocol.
Hayley Hobson: So can you just share a little bit about each one and what the benefits are?
Eric Smith: I can. So BPC-157 is the healing one. It's really good from a gut health standpoint. A lot of people have gut issues will be on it. Muscle healing, tendon healing. TB-500 complements that as well. And it's kind of stacked on top of it. And so they kind of work hand in hand together. A lot of people will do them separate. It just depends on their body, but I think they work better together. I've seen better results personally. My wife has seen better results doing them together. That's the Wolverine.
Hayley Hobson: That's what Wes is taking, right? That stack.
Eric Smith: Yep. And then obviously the GHK-CU is the super popular one right now because it's a copper based and skin tightening, anti-aging. It works well when it's with BPC-157 and TB-500. They work really well together. And that's what you call the Glow Blend when they're all together. Yep. And they just kind of enhance each other. A lot of them are great on their own, but as you start doing the research, you'll find that they work better with another peptide. That's why you're seeing more of these blends out there.
Hayley Hobson: Okay. And then talk about the growth hormones, the Sermorelin, the Tesamorelin.
Eric Smith: Tesamorelin is a little bit stronger, but you'll definitely see some body composition changes because they both work with fighting and eating up visceral fat, which is a key for a lot of people. And that's usually, that's kind of the number one goal we hear a lot is like, Hey, I want to get rid of my belly fat. How can I do that? And I don't want to be on a GLP. Then this is the avenue to go. Definitely less side effects with Tesamorelin and Sermorelin. And there's a bunch of other morelins out there. We only carry those two. But the difference is really like one is working on visceral fat. The other one was working on like the GLPs are working on, the like suppressing the appetite, isn't that right? And they'll, it'll help build the fight and insulin resistance on the GLPs. I mean, there's three GLPs out there right now. Semaglutide, Tirzepatide, and Retatrutide. And so Retatrutide is what we carry. We carry Tirzepatide as well. Also, we just started doing that, but Retatrutide is kind of the new one, the newest one out there and probably has the best benefits with less side effects.
Hayley Hobson: What do you like best about that one versus.
Eric Smith: I think the best, and I know we all have friends that have taken probably a Semaglutide, whether it's one of the brand names or Tirzepatide brand named ones, and they'll get that sunken in face or they'll have, they'll just kind of, they'll look thinner and they've lost the weight. But at some point is what starts happening is it starts eating their muscle. Retatrutide does not do that. It gives you all the benefits of the GLP Semaglutide or the Tirzepatide without burning all the muscle. So you're kind of.
Hayley Hobson: Does it work to take them, take that together with one of the growth hormones so that you're.
Eric Smith: A lot of people will stack Retatrutide and Tesamorelin. Yep. A lot of people do that.
Hayley Hobson: Okay. And are there any other ones that haven't talked about you feel like are worth a mention right now?
Eric Smith: I mean, there's, there's, let's see, where should we go? Selank and Semax, which are cognitive and anti-anxiety. A lot of those are two really popular ones that we're doing.
Hayley Hobson: How about glutathione?
Eric Smith: Glutathione. Yes. I was just going to get to that. Glutathione for sure. I do that twice a week. Absolutely love it. So it, it's a detoxification and it also helps with liver health. So if you're out in Vegas one night and need a little boost in the morning, that's a good booster. Like a lot of the IV clinics, they'll add that to all the people that are dehydrated. That's one of those. It helps with stress, doesn't it?
Hayley Hobson: Yep. Like your body's adapted to stress. What about some people have a lot of problems sleeping and they've tried lots of different, you know, sleep aids or gummies or whatever, you know, CBD, CBN, essential oils, and still nothing's happening. Like, I think that Wes actually has in his days that he raced, he retired because he had a severe case of, um, what is it where you, it's a, you know, a cortisol slash hormone issue where you, you, you just have, you can't train anymore. You're like all the time. And, um, is there anything that can work on that repair?
Eric Smith: I'm not sure on the chronic fatigue. I haven't really researched it, but from a sleep standpoint, it's called DSIP, which we carry. And so it's a, I believe it's a 10 day cycle. So just kind of helps you get back into your research, training your brain to reset your sleep patterns. And it's definitely becoming more and more popular. I was a horrible sleeper. I could fall asleep really fast, but staying asleep has always been an issue. And I've done two 10 day cycles with it because you do it once a quarter to twice a year. And it's definitely helped me improve my sleep.
Hayley Hobson: So if he's waking up like every night, one to three, that's one that you think will help shift the circadian rhythm.
Eric Smith: Yep. That's a very good one. And it's, and you don't have to do it. It's, I think it's 10 days straight. I'd have to recall the protocol, but it's like 10 days straight, twice, two to three times a year. So usually what do we have it in DSIP? I think have it in 10 milligrams. So it would be basically two vials worth for the time.
Hayley Hobson: Okay. All right. Yeah. I'm going to have them reach out about that. That's great. So let's talk about, are there any like.
Eric Smith: Oh, the other one that would be NAD, which is also extremely popular right now. Big anti-aging, reduced fatigue, increased energy, improved cognitive function, metabolic health. So that's another one that's been super popular.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah, I started using NAD several years ago in one of my collagen supplements. There's NAD and NADH to help get the NAD to start moving. But then, you know, that's when the NAD, like IVs became popular and a lot of people were complaining about them because it hurt their heart and they couldn't breathe. You definitely can get like, that's one of the few, one of the side effects is you can get flushed. You can get a little jacked up when you first take it. So you definitely want to start slow. I started taking it two years ago, maybe three years ago at a wellness clinic. And so that's what they had recommended. I was doing it once a week. I was going as an injectable, sub-Q.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah. I've never done it on the IV. I've had a lot of friends that have done it and like it that way, but again, you do get a little flush. Some people do. And it takes, it's, I've watched, because I go to some of the IV places and I've watched people get them and it can take anywhere from two to four hours to sit there and get a bag of them. They have to do that one very slow. Yeah. I prefer just to do the injectable, but it's all preference. Oh, and it's like a minor part of the cost. It's so expensive when you get those bags. Yes. Extremely.
Hayley Hobson: Well, are there any misconceptions or mistakes that you've seen people make as they start to get into this as consumers or newcomers?
Eric Smith: I think that the biggest mistake or kind of the myth is more is not always better. And I think you and I've had this conversation. I'd always, again, we can't really recommend dosage. We can send people to the right spots, but I'd rather see people start slower and build up then start super fast because that's when you never know what the side effects are. You don't know how your body's going to react, even though they are naturally producing amino acids in your body. You just don't always know what's going to happen. So I think that's kind of the biggest mistake is people will start fast. They'll have some sort of side effect and then they won't do it again and then they won't be able to see the benefits. So I would, my recommendation would be to just start slow, make sure you've done your research and seeing what would work for your body. Yeah, that would probably be the biggest mistake.
Hayley Hobson: And I think like when you're getting started in this, because obviously there was a point where I was getting started too, it can feel a little intimidating because all of these have different names and they're not names that you're used to and you're not sure, like, you know, you're just hearing, but you're like, oh my God, now I have to become a researcher. And it's not as scary as it seems. Like there is a lot of information out there about these. I'll create a cheat sheet for you guys and I will give you a link to it. And I'll also give you a link to Eric's site so you can read about them there. But it's, you know, I was like, I want something that's going to help with skin health. I want something that's going to help with hair growth. I want something that's going to help me, you know, keep my body composition and that's, or recover from injuries or reduce inflammation. And that's how I chose what I chose. And to be honest, I'm very happy with what I chose.
Hayley Hobson: So, you know, will I change and mix it up and try new things probably, but not as areas or as intimidating as we think. So if you don't know anything about it, don't worry. I think that's the biggest issue, right? Is obviously it's injectable. So you got to put an insulin needle in your sub Q someplace and a fat area. Right. And then the other one is finding the right research. So that's one thing that we're doing right now that we're building out three educational websites. So we can at least be able to educate people, give them a place where they can do research. Because again, you know, it is the internet, there's so much misinformation out there and we want to make sure everyone has the right information for them. So that's, that's what we're working on now. We launched one today with an ebook that has a bunch of new information in it. So I'll send that over to you as well.
Hayley Hobson: Oh, that's great. Thank you. All right. Awesome. So what, how do you think this is going to change our definition of health or aging? Well, now that we're all entering this peptide space.
Eric Smith: Yeah, I don't think it's a fad. The administration under Kennedy, he is a huge peptide fan. It's been on peptides for a long time. So he's definitely a big promoter of it, which, you know, helps the industry in general as big pharma is not a big fan of it because it's taking money out of their pocket, whether it's painkillers or GLPs or you name it, right. We're taking money away from them. But they are a cheat code. As long as you are getting enough sleep, doing the exercise and doing the diet, they work really well all four together. I don't see it going away. I see it getting bigger and bigger.
Hayley Hobson: Why do you think it's taken this long to, I'm going to, I'm going to say, even though a lot of people are not on them now, and it's just sort of starting this information is starting to disseminate online. I still feel like it's like in my space, it's mainstream now. Like in fact, almost everybody I know is using them. Why do you think it's taken so long?
Eric Smith: I don't think there was the accessibility to it. I don't think it was, you could get it before it was the hard part. There'll be a few doctors from the med spas or from certain clinics that were always promoting it, but it just wasn't widely known that there was something out there that could actually help you without having to go to a doctor or get a prescription to get help. And what about the companies that are setting up like those telemed, do you need that? You do not need that. Now, again, I mean, it's always important to get your own blood work done and have your numbers, but you don't have to have that for research peptides. And if you do go that route, you're probably spending a lot more money because you're telehealth visits. You're paying a lot of money and you're getting the same exact product.
Hayley Hobson: Right, right. Well, that's good to know. Thanks. Yeah. So if you had access to this knowledge, let's say 30 years ago, what would you have done differently in your lifestyle?
Eric Smith: I definitely would have been doing the BPC-157 TB-500 when I was training a hundred percent. It makes such a huge difference from a recovery standpoint. And as a triathlete, that's all you're really trying to do is be able to recover. So you'd go harder the next day. And so that would have been a game changer for me. I think that was something I always struggled with. A lot of it was, I probably didn't have the best knowledge on diet either when I was younger. And so learning that, but adding the peptides to it, it would have been a massive game changer for me.
Hayley Hobson: Yeah. Well, this has been really good stuff. Thank you so much for sharing all of your knowledge, Eric. It was really interesting. And I hope that whoever is listening today feels empowered to do what I did and take control of your own aging process and how to support it. Eric has provided us with some super valuable information about the peptide industry and how it's playing a role in helping all of us age up more gracefully, efficiently, effectively. And you know, that's a topic I'm absolutely obsessed with and one that should be passed to everyone and every woman, especially everywhere, in my opinion. So I encourage you to share this episode with a friend or any woman that you know, that's what's a more natural way to support her body as she ages up, because y'all deserve to feel amazing every day, no matter how old you are. And if you have been searching for all natural solutions, this could be the answer.
Hayley Hobson: The link I'll share with you from Eric's company, where he's also giving you a discount is hayleyhobson.com. So H-A-Y-L-E-Y H-O-B-S-O-N dot com slash peptides with an S. And you can check out their full line of peptides. And you can even talk to Eric and see if you've got questions about the one that might be right for you. For now, as I stated earlier, I got started on Sermorelin at first, I switched over to Tesamorelin. I'm on BPC-157, NAD, GHK-CU, which is the copper peptide. And mainly because reversing the damage to my skin, wrinkles, bone health, joint health, reducing inflammation are of the utmost priority to me, but you may need a totally different mix. And like I said, you'll get 25% off with that link. All you got to do is use the code HH25 at checkout. That's HH25. So head on over to hayleyhobson.com forward slash peptides, and then use the code HH25. I'm telling you, it has changed the way that I feel and look, and I know that it will change the way that you feel too. So feel free to reach out to me anytime.
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